It's actually more of an elegant trap than the slightly haphazard manipulations of Anakin -- Palpatine isn't exactly careful when he points out he doesn't have the secret of immortality, and suggesting Vader killed Padmé is a blatant lie Anakin should've seen through. 26 comments. So Palpatine used what he could with Luke. This thread is archived. The only thing you can do vs Palpatine as luke is kock him down in front of your teammates and hope they kill him. Luke becomes a Jedi Master himself later. TLJ Luke vs Palpatine. Luke had the courage to step up and protect his friends. Knowledge: All canon knowledge from the time of ROTS. As Luke had spent his life overcoming fear and hardships. It was the equivalent to the Jedi's 'May the Force be with you.' But the strategy was to go in and get Vader to come back to the light side, and it just barely worked. Best way to counter is waiting Vader to come and throw him away , Never 1v1 Palpy if youre not playing Rey, Lando or Chewie, Landon and chewie would be the easiest. When Palpatine tried to kill Luke in Return of the Jedi, Vader sacrifices his life, becoming one with the Force. Round 4: Luke (from right before NJO novels) vs. Darth Vader (with the suit/right before Death Star II) Round 5: Luke (before Legacy of the Force) vs. Darth Sidious (from Episode VI) Round 6: Luke (after Fate of the Jedi) vs. Darth Sidious (from Dark Empire) on the Death Star II. Palpatine expected Luke to defeat Vader and stand at his side, providing a worthy new apprentice to one day consume as a part of the Rule of Two, but Luke threw down his saber and refused to fight and Vader threw Palpatine down the reactor shaft … Rey can 1v1 Palpatine because of the knockdown on dash strike and her unlmited stamina during insight. Palpatine winced and then grinned. Am I missing something? The best answer to this is Jar Jar as a hero/villain. A filibuster star card is your only hope against THE SENATE. Not to mention I got him stuck against a tree and hit him with one strike and he can instantly dash out of the 'stun'. If balance in heroes you seek, only disappointment will you find. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the StarWarsBattlefront community, Continue browsing in r/StarWarsBattlefront. Massive World Devastators, more powerful and unstoppable than the Death Star, ravage entire planets, while the ruthless heirs of Jabba the Hutt place a monumental price on the heads of Princess Leia and her husband, Han Solo. Press J to jump to the feed. And continuing the cycle wasn’t going to happen. The Emperor essentially caught Luke in a trap; Luke had to strike the Emperor down in order to stop him ordering the Death Star to kill his friends (and indeed the whole of Endor), but if he struck out of anger he'd fall to the dark side away ("once you start down the dark path..."). If Anakin could see his son now. Star Wars: Return of the Jedi famously ends with Luke Skywalker's duel against his father, Darth Vader, which results in the Sith Lord's redemption and the destruction of the Death Star, thanks to the Rebels on Endor. Help me. The death of the clone Luuke caused a deranged Joruus C'baoth to go on a rampage. Really not much of a choice if he comes after you. The two teams will start facing each other 10 feet away in the same place Obi-Wan vs Anakin started. TLJ ends with Luke smirking to a screaming Ren that he'll see him around, then Luke just hangs out on the same lonely rock like he never even died and gained full access to the Force. Luke was too weak to join his father in overthrowing EMPEROR PALPATINE. Luke just struggles in general though. share. Plus you can still shock her while stun locked. His lightning breaks your guard in a few seconds and don't bother taking cover as his lightning goes through everything anyway. While the battle between the father and son was a pivotal and important moment in the overall Star Wars storyline, a Reddit user posits that it was quite unnecessary considering the Rebels would … And to that he should consider the audio version of the story that is very explicit about the duel being with Luke alone vs. Palpatine (with the force harmony not helping Luke). General Discussion. General Discussion. Posted by u/[deleted] 1 year ago. I really can't understand the complaints about Anakin's fall. The subreddit dedicated to the discussion of the Star Wars: Battlefront franchise, including the entries by both EA DICE and Pandemic Studios. Luke takes this. Luke vs. Palpatine / Anakin vs. Palpatine. Yoda and in particular Luke just get owned. You eat an electrocute and die in 2 seconds. (Luke screams.) The strongest Jedi vs the strongest Sith. The only thing you can do vs Palpatine as luke is kock him down in front of your teammates and hope they kill him. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. I actually 1v1'd Palp as Yoda yesterday. Battle. Close. The Emperor got up and told the boy, "May the force serve you well." It was an unlikely occurance and 9/10 Palp wins but it felt great tearing him down haha. Vader has 4 1/2 years to train Luke to face Palpatine. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Just shock him and shoot him in the head. There is only the dark side. Six years after the Battle of Endor, the fight for freedom rages on. Archived. Press J to jump to the feed. Luke: No. Some 50 years after Palpatine took control of the senate (and 30 more since his death at Vader’s hand) Luke Skywalker was deep in exile – until the end of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, that is.The scavenger Rey located the one-time Jedi Master, and though she couldn't convince Luke to return to the Resistance with her, the heroine persuaded him to teach her the Jedi way. I literally can't do shit, even if I push him and then chase he'll just spin away and start all over again. They can all use any power they want Palpatine: Alone. 1 Family 1.1 Palpatine's "son" 1.2 Rey 2 Allies and Subordinates 2.1 Darth Plagueis 2.2 Maul 2.3 Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus 2.4 Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader 2.5 General Grievous 2.6 Wilhuff Tarkin 2.7 Thrawn 2.8 Gallius Rax 3 Enemies 3.1 Mace Windu 3.2 Yoda 3.3 Obi-Wan Kenobi 3.4 Padmé Amidala 3.5 Bail Organa 3.6 Ahsoka Tano 3.7 … Battle. Versions: Palpatine (ROTS), Vader (Just after ROTS), Dooku (ROTS) vs Luke (ROTJ), Yoda (ROTS), Mace (ROTS) Location: Mustafar. Which was the obvious display of Luke’s emotional nature. I am playing Endor and I end up getting Luke during the forest phase. Palpatine sat down and the boy climbed into his lap. Star Wars is an American epic space opera franchise, created by George Lucas and centered around a film series that began with the eponymous 1977 movie. Palpatine’s next-best option then became Anakin’s offspring, which is why the entire original trilogy involves Luke gaining enough power to eventually confront the Emperor. Palpatine was a genius at manipulation. By the end of his time he’s already outdueled Palpatine (granted with Leia’s help) before his prime, and would go on to win against Yuuzhan Vong Warmasters, other Sith, and even pose a credible threat to Abeloth. Restrictions: None. When the new Star Wars trilogy begins, it is made abundantly clear that Luke may be the key to this entire conflict. But the most interesting part of this theory explains Rey’s lineage: The Emperor is unaware of Lukes training until Luke and Vader challenge him. 3. Luke becomes a Jedi Master himself later. But now it really just feels like Palpatine was toying with both Vader and Skywalker. 2 years ago. Been rewatching everything over the last few weeks to get ready for TLJ, and I noticed something when I hit "Return of the Jedi". I have found vanguard the best way to deal with him. Vader and Luke leave Bespin covertly, they immediately jump to a secret location for Vader to train Luke. The relationships of Palpatine from the Star Wars universe. After the duel, Skywalker gave the clone's li… Vader can only train Luke when Vader has free time any time hes on missions he cannot train Luke. tongue flail: makes situation uncomfortable and causes stun to enemy, clumsy mother f------- : he just trips and falls and everything explodes, Learn to not pick Luke he’s really underpowered, Everyone’s underpowered compared to palpatine. 4. Mace Windu and Jedi vs Palpatine (Revenge of the Sith) This might be the biggest surprise on the list, but seeing Palpatine use a lightsaber for the first time is a jump-out-of-your-seat moment. Palpatine: There is no one. Posted by. Darth Vader is dead, but a reborn Empire—under a mysterious new leader—strikes back at the struggling Rebel Alliance. Palpatine: You are nothing. Fucking Abeloth.. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. But when it comes to Luke, Palpatine seems very haphazard and ill-prepared to truly entice Luke into the darkness. Other Reddit users counter the theory, claiming that Palpatine was the real winner of their duel, making Rey or Kylo Ren the rightful heir to the weapon since they defeated him in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker. Luke isn't that bad, other Jedi are better but it is easy to do well with Luke. He was in a tunnel during last phase on Crait and I was able to block, push and get a good heal before I pummeled him. He's faster and has dark aura. After all, if Palpatine was the one to clone Luke and create Rey, that would explain why he returns in Episode IX. Compared to Luke's supposed "temptation", Anakin's fall was amazingly portrayed in the films (let alone the addition of all the Clone Wars material). Luke knew it was a suicide mission, that if Vader didn't outright wreck him, that Palpatine would obliterate him. If Anakin got his son back, he would know that saying, Palpatine thought cruelly. Luke vs. Palpatine / Anakin vs. Palpatine. 4. And Luke wasn’t spoiled with the idea of greatness like Anakin had been. Back during the Rebellion, Palpatine needed to drive Luke away from the fight so it could be won. Cookies help us deliver our Services. If he struck at all Vader would stop him, being loyal to the Emperor, and Luke would have to fight his own father to the death. And he had lived enough in a Galaxy ran by the Empire to know it wasn’t the right thing. Archived. Mara Jade was forced to slay the insane Jedi Master with the help of Luke Skywalker, who had been instantly relieved of the buzzing pressure in his mind after the death of his clone. But that thread wasn’t enough. never try to go one on one vs the Senate, wait for cover fire support, While it's always a risk with his AoE attacks, I have found concentration of firepower the best way to deal with him. And managing his emotions. TLJ Luke vs Palpatine. Now that his number one counter The Supercharged Sentry has been nerfed he's way tougher to deal with. Vader sought revenge against those who hid Luke from him for all of these … Luke just struggles in general though. In Star Wars: The Last Jedi, and after much hesitation from his part, Luke began training Rey, and he (along with viewers) witnessed how strong and potentially dangerous her connection with the Force really was.In The Rise of Skywalker, Luke revealed he and Leia knew Rey was a Palpatine, which some fans have pointed out doesn’t make sense as he didn’t know who she was in the previous film. While many fans do not like that it feels as though Anakin falls too easily, he at least had reasons for his fall -- he wanted to save Padme, he felt jealous of Obi-Wan, he was resentful of the Jedi order, and he was possessive in his love of Padme, all things that give easy in-roads for a manipulative Palpatine. Along with Lando, Chewbacc… I mean, his big enticement to the Dark side is "you're angry, use it". He knew much more about Anakin and spent enough time subtly manipulating Anakin over the years. Luke: Where am I? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Some Palpatine chases me down, well fine I guess? Close. I think Yoda is fine against Palpatine, he can absorb his lightning and release it pretty easily, taking a big chunk of health out of the senate, which, of course, he will regen later after he runs away. Luke: I am a Jedi. However, this is highly contested, as the movie's novelization reveals that this Palpatine was merely a clone, therefore delegitimizing Rey and Kylo as the killers. Rey can 1v1 Palpatine because of the knockdown on dash strike and her unlmited stamina during insight. rey can't do much palpatine can Jump while stunned and you can't hit him mid air. You run? I always believed that while Vader partially wanted Luke to fall so they could kill Palpatine and become the new ruling pair, that Palpatine wished to replace one old half-robot Skywalker with a younger more agile and capable apprentice. And get his father back. But he didn’t have enough insight to Luke’s past. The riseof Luke Skywalker’s Light powers at the end of Episode VIIItriggered an increase in Dark side power of equal measure, leading to a mirrored “rise of Palpatine,” so to speak. Been rewatching everything over the last few weeks to get ready for TLJ, and I noticed something when I hit "Return of the Jedi". Luke had the courage to overcome his fears, Anakin did not. And no matter what, the survival of the First Order demands that the Resistance NEVER find Luke Skywalker. Grand Master Luke 23:09, January 14, 2011 (UTC) Infobox sourcing [edit source] hi, I've done some sourcing on the infobox. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 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